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[STOCKPHOTO] Re: Comp question to photographers in general.
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Ed Verkaik
2007-01-08 18:55:21 UTC
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It will just make it barely harder to get to them.
I made the statement above and I stand by what I said.
Please post a link to a Protware-protected image on your site.
You used the expression "barely harder" which is not true. It will make it
much harder for the vast majority of regular web users who want to steal the
server image. Yes, it will not stop a determined person from getting a
screen capture but all the other, easier methods-- including snatching
images from the cache-- will be disabled. A screen capture will likely have
poorer quality than the file it displays.

Internet security is not a matter of absolutes, but of degrees. If I can
stop 98% of casual theft and force the odd diehard to *really* work at it,
then I have succeeded in reducing the spread of my imagery without my
control. It's not perfect but is a whole lot better than doing nothing. It
is time for you to acknowledge small victories instead of jumping all over
them. We all know the weaknesses but in my book, the risk of remaining
unprotected is far too high now.

The largest advertising market of the future will be the web. Even a
thumbnail can be stolen and reused on a website, representing lost income.
Copyright lawyers will not help (they are too expensive... no justice unless
you're rich) so the only solution is to control access. For those that say
"It's the web, we need to take that risk..." I would say you will find your
imagery everywhere in time, without recourse. The day (coming soon) when
optimizing software can recreate a small jpeg and make it suitable for large
ads is coming too. We either give up on the idea of IP rights or we shut the
door on access, as best we can.

Ed Verkaik
David Riecks
2007-01-08 21:28:19 UTC
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Post by Ed Verkaik
A screen capture will likely have
poorer quality than the file it displays.
Ed:

What documentation do you have to support this claim?

If you are posting an image that is 400 x 600 pixels and having the
browser render it to 200 x 300 I would agree that a screen capture
would be lower quality, only because the browser is not displaying the
full resolution of the file.

However if I make a screen capture and save as a TIFF, then that image
will be the exact same quality as I see on screen. If I'm going to
post that image on my website and resave it as a Jpeg, then it's
possible that the second round of compression caused by my saving it
as a jpeg might lower the quality, but only if I'm not paying
attention when I set the compression level.

David
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Jonathan Clymer
2007-01-10 13:22:06 UTC
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Post by Ed Verkaik
A screen capture will likely have
poorer quality than the file it displays.
Can you explain how you came to this conclusion?

Jonathan Clymer


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Rubens Abboud
2007-01-10 13:25:29 UTC
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Post by Ed Verkaik
It will just make it barely harder to get to them.
I made the statement above and I stand by what I said.
Please post a link to a Protware-protected image on your site.
You used the expression "barely harder" which is not true.
The hardest part about pressing the Print Screen key is deciding
which finger to use.
Post by Ed Verkaik
A screen capture will likely have
poorer quality than the file it displays.
Nope. A screen capture will deliver every sparkling original pixel
of the file.
Post by Ed Verkaik
It
is time for you to acknowledge small victories instead of jumping all over
them.
What "small victory"???

Your images are still one click away from being "stolen" just like
everyone else's.

What's the logic behind spending $70 on a lock for your side door if
no product yet exists to lock your front door?

Best regards,

Rubens.
http://www.TheImageNation.com
Travel stock photography

If you use Protware your images will still be unprotected. This is
not a "small victory"

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